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Some universities might be full of those desi gay chat room. IQ was never an argument. When did I ever say IQ was an argument. Many of theists assume atheists have never read bible or any philosopher's argument. Unlike theism, single canadian guys is never based on marrying a widow with a child. They have risen above it.

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I take these as symbolic. For example the fact, that the first thing that God creates is light. This doesn't make any sense from a scientific viewpoint, and the people who lived back then had the same IQ level as us if we believe the scientific consensus on human development. It must have been obvious even to them, that the sun is in fact the origin of light. Actually there are enough ancient texts that show that people did in fact understand. So why in the world would God create light before the sun or the stars?

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This is the central question. Every element in the chain has ga one element before it as cause, as reason for being. But what reason does the whole chain have? There is no rational answer to this question. This is the point of the whole argument. If God is not the root cause of the chain, then the chain is endless.

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We observe that many human beings like masons and even lower animals like ants and bees act together harmoniously to build objects like palaces, ant-hills and hives. This doesn't make world godly. Ants are not their own reason, they are there because of evolution assuming evolution theory is correct. The harmony has developed.

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It's just like with mathematics: Before you understood it, you might not have agreed, but once you understand it, you have no choice. And I mean what should they do about it? They have two irrational choices, believe in God or an eternal irrational world. Of course they'd chose what their peers chose: I concede that there is a third choice: Which means not believing that there is a God but saying you cannot know. In my opinion this is actually the only real alternative to believing that God exists.

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An Indian theist branch 'Nyaya' holds this argument of cause-effect reasoning for proving the existence of God. I do agree it is worth considering. But I do not understand why it is necessary to consider it in the context of above argument. Please elaborate. Yeah, God is also irrational.

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